and of course, these are very big boots to step into. and i have to say, from what i'd heard, it's no surprise that james murdock has not, it would seem, been fully equal to the task. though i think one has to be cautious and say it will be some time before we know the full story here as to what he knew and didn't know and what he did and didn't do. >> james murdock seemed to be the real champion of this giant deal over there for bskyb. and his father seems to be the one who say, no, we're not going to do that right now, we can't do it. is this deal to quote "the princess bride" all dead or only mostly dead? >> well, the deal, had it not been sunk as i think it has been by the scandal, would have been very good indeed. this british sky broadcasting has revenues of something over 6 million pounds, i believe. that may be dollars. in any event, a year, of which the profit is close to 1 billion pounds or dollars. it's an awful lot of money. compare that with the newspapers here that he owns which, you know, it's nickels and dimes. so the rea